Stunt Granny Lunch Conversation: Jeremy and Eric, April 12, 2011

OK, so this is the first installment of what will hopefully turn out to be a recurring thing here. We often mention on our audios how we talk to each other during the day but that conversation never makes it fully to the air. Well, here is your opportunity to get inside our heads a bit as we work through angles, stories and news bits of the day that may not make air or print anywhere else.  Hopefully this is entertaining and not a droll, egotistical approach to adding content. -Jeremy

Jeremy: So what you feel on Edge? I think it is real but then they have him on Friday giving up the belt so I sniff an angle leading to one more match.

Eric Nelson: I would think that since he’s still capable of wrestling that he’ll wrestle Alberto at Extreme Rules. Edge has to be man enough to put someone over on his way out. Oh and yes, I bet he does retire for real after that.

Jeremy: See I am thinking he isn’t. Why else would they do it like that then give the heroes farewell on camera when he went backstage? Unless they have gotten really good with the backstage shenanigans. He was hugging heels. He even hugged Ziggler.

Eric Nelson: I think they have gotten good with it. They’re at a point where they either go big or say fuck it.

Jeremy: Also, if it was an angle why not run it on Tuesday for Smackdown?

Eric Nelson: Because no one watches Smackdown. Set the table for it on the show everyone watches, then on Friday, have the dastardly guy who you desperately want to be your No. 1 heel but isn’t quite there yet put your hero on the shelf for good.

Jeremy: Instead of a match? Or have Alberto hurt him again to force a match?

Eric Nelson: I say milk him for one more. I like Edge, he’s been around forever and he’s become a go-to guy. But who the fuck is Edge? He’s not gonna retire and just hand over the belt. I say Alberto pressures him into one last match.

Jeremy: I thought the same thing. He went over his history and it felt sort of empty.

Eric Nelson: Win lose or draw Edge gets to leave, but “Edge, you’re going to lose” then an arm breaker.

Jeremy: Playing in to the “losing feeling in my arms” comment? Another big part of his speech was the fact he mentioned not being in a wheelchair almost like he was feeding a promo for Alberto and a few weeks of sympathy from Christian.

Eric Nelson: Yep

Jeremy: So how dumb are we both going to be when we read the spoilers and he hands it over and gives a speech and that is it? Is that in the realm of possibility?

Eric Nelson: It is within the realm. Partially because WWE has actually done a lot of face-value stuff lately. What you see is actually what you get, no swerve.

Jeremy: True, but they also like to do this a lot. They have blurred the line so much it makes it hard to tell. It showed in the crowd reaction. They were all waiting for Alberto’s music. I know I was.  When it never hit I tweeted, ugh, “Wait is this for real?”

Eric Nelson: Yeah, I was waiting too;  every second of the promo.

Jeremy: Which speaks back to WWE having established 97% of what you see is a story. So you get these moments and they are sullied. Now if it would have been the day after WM maybe that doesn’t happen.

Jeremy: If these details are true, nah, he is done

Eric Nelson: Yeah, but they gotta cover their bases. Ooh, Neuropraxia, it has a name! Kind of like Randy Savage crushing Ricky Steamboat’s “larynx”

Jeremy: HA

Eric Nelson: How many 8 year old kids knew what a “larynx” was before that? But because they said that, it’s real. Plus, one more match and he could be paralyzed? Couldn’t that one match have been WrestleMania?

Jeremy: Exactly

Eric Nelson: Not that much has changed in two weeks. Not like there’s suddenly a kink in his spinal cord.

Jeremy: Unless WrestleMania made it that much more pressing.

Eric Nelson: Yeah, the payoff was too good. I don’t know, I have my doubts

Jeremy: Yeah, I am on the fence

Eric Nelson: Tonight’s tapings will be the factor, of course

Jeremy: Yeah will know more after tonight. On a selfish note; we never got an Edge Randy Orton feud did we? They had one match.

Eric Nelson: Nope, not a proper one like we should have. Rated RKO was a good team at a good time in their careers. Orton still coming up but already having proven himself, and Edge as a young veteran but a power player and a jerk.

Jeremy: Backtracking a bit, one thing I just noticed. “Medical professionals cannot clear Edge” so would they go the unsanctioned route? But then you can’t have it for the title.

Eric Nelson: Right, has to be for the title.
Eric Nelson: I will say this, I hope for Edge’s sake it’s not a ladder match. He doesn’t need that. Alberto could say, “You know, you’re the king of the ladder match, but I’m not afraid of that. I want to be the man who beats you for the title, not the man who cripples you for life…” “So you ARE going to wrestle me at Extreme Rules… it will no longer be a ladder match, but it will be no holds barred… and I WILL take your title”

Jeremy: That is the only scenario I can see playing out. Saves some bumps and go to a brawling match. Use interference for smoke and mirrors

Eric Nelson: Yeah

Jeremy: So after all that, I guess we have to sit back and look for spoilers?

Eric Nelson: Yep

Footage of John Cena, Randy Orton paying tribute to Edge after WWE Raw

Awww. (P.S. Turn your speakers down, the sound is loud and distorted.) -Eric

Eric’s blog: Larry Sweeney revived the art of the wrestling manager

Listening back to our PWTorch.com VIP interview with the late Larry Sweeney from March 2008, it’s easy to hear the excitement in our voices when asking Sweeney who inspired his over-the-top wrestling character, as it translated so well into his cornerman persona in Ring of Honor. As a pro wrestling manager, he was smarmy, he was loud, he was obnoxious, he dressed poorly, and he made you want to grab him by his shaggy, curly hair and just shake him until he left you alone.

He was an antagonist to the nth degree, more effectively than most in-ring performers of his time and certainly a throwback to the days when wrestling managers like Capt. Lou Albano, Bobby “The Brain” Heenan, Jim Cornette and Jimmy Hart ran rampant outside the ring.

Managers played an important role in pro wrestling for decades, often acting as the mouthpiece for a behemoth who couldn’t get his point across verbally, so audiences would understand what that grappler’s motives were in the fight. Sometimes managers performed the duties of a general whose army’s collective goal was utter annihilation, and in the war room, the manager strategized the chaos.

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