Stunt Granny Conversation: The Walking Dead – Season 4 – Indifference

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Kevin: Are we going to have our somewhat zombie free discussion?

Jeremy: Ahh you referring to last night’s show? What little zombies there were sure made an impact.

Kevin: Yes sir, I am referring to last night’s episode of The Walking Dead titled Indifference.

Jeremy: Very formal. Did they have to kill the hippie chick? Why not the doofus?

Kevin: That whole scene seemed very much like wrestling. This couple has gone at least several years without getting killed but they happen to get killed within minutes of meeting Rick & Carol? I saw that coming a mile away. Just to cheese it up more, she had retrieved her vegetables from their greenhouse.

Jeremy: I was waiting for them to turn on Rick and Carol, which was the drama for me. They were given guns after all. They did make a point of bringing up her gimpy leg. It made me laugh when that was left behind. Not sure it was supposed to though.

Kevin: And his weak shoulder. I’m sure the zombies were just targeting those body parts. They never should have worn wraps. They’re like bull’s eyes for zombies.

Jeremy: Splash them in blood next time to give them a fighting chance.

Kevin: Ha. That would be one way to deal with them. I did love the talk Carol and Rick had while our favorite hippie chick was getting pulled apart.

Jeremy: Yes, as they discuss life and death issues the poor hippie is being dismembered 190 feet away.

Kevin: At least they got a couple of extra tomatoes out of their gabbing. I thought it was interesting that they had flipped roles in opinion for the most part.

Jeremy: Carol has become the most interesting person in the show. She was steadfast in her views. She reminded me a lot of Shane. Rick is back to his timid actions like they were on the farm.

Kevin: Shane was exactly who came to mind for me too. It’s still weird that she killed and burned two people the episode before they had an entire cell block full of people who were sick. Her form of justice didn’t do any good.

Jeremy:  Right and that is what Rick tried to point out so weakly. She killed them without thinking. She acted irrationally where Shane had his stance buy them couldn’t handle it. Carol albeit messy had her plan but didn’t think it through. She did try to justify her actions which I agree with if they were that bad off physically. Rick viewed her as a loose cannon.

Kevin: Which is where his waffling was weird to me. Sometimes, people make bad choices. It seemed to me more like this was a bad choice by Carol more than a pathological problem like Shane had.

Jeremy: Well she did start teaching weapons class to kids behind everyone’s back. She has gone out on her own already. At this rate she may become more aggressive. She even gave the one girl a knife inside the quarantine. He noticed it was gone when he unrolled the knives in the car.

Kevin: I guess she was moving that way even further. Is that the first person to get booted from the show without dying?

Jeremy: Well Merle comes to mind but he ended up returning and going walker. The closest I can think is the black neighbor who returned last season. I cannot remember his name. But he wasn’t a regular. Also, the Governor.

Kevin: I think that was more my point, none of the characters who were in the group have gotten that part of a sendoff. Merle and The Governor were both bad guys who got away. I really don’t remember the black neighbors name anyway.

Jeremy: Got ya but so you really think this is the end of her? Hell, Rick was looking in the rearview mirror constantly. I was waiting for her to appear or for Rick to crash.

Kevin: I think she’ll be back but I’m not sure she’s a hell fire bringing kind of a person. Of course, I’m not sure why you’d want to come back with a disease ravaging the entire place. Would the girl in the sick block pull her back in?

Jeremy: The girls may provide a tug but it makes me think that is what Rick was looking for. She became so unattached she wouldn’t name her own daughter. She had something there to fight for and didn’t. When she returns and I am sticking to that, it won’t be in anger. Her removal will have huge consequences for the entire group.

Kevin: Any type of consequences that come to mind specifically?

Jeremy:  Well Daryl. Ugh, not consequences good god. I meant effects. Daryl loses his closest friend. If Rick decides to tell Tyreese he may go off again. The two girls now have no parents again.

Kevin: That is a triumvirate of problems. Rick has got to explain why she is gone so it’s not like he can get around it unless he flat out lies to the group.

Jeremy: Yeah he can’t lie and say she died. At least he shouldn’t if he has learned anything. It will also look very suspicious for him to return without her. Even though Rick talks her up about being stronger and a survivor now is so hollow. She was given some sundries and agent off on her own after all that time inside a group.

Kevin: That wasn’t much of a severance package. I did like how she groveled a bit to try and stay in the group by complimenting his tenure as leader. Carol was right in telling him that he needs to be a farmer and fighter.

Jeremy: Yes she was fine.  I hate then fact she finally becomes a compelling and strong woman and now she is seemingly gone. Guess that means they got me emotionally involved. Damnit.

Kevin: The only thought in my brain that we haven’t covered was of course they’d get rid of someone when they become interesting. Par for the course.

Jeremy: Yeah but she will still be back. So, how long do we have to go with two black guys on this show? I am ready for Bob to die already.

Kevin: Of course the scum bag who has a drinking problem sticks around. With all of his near death experiences already this season, I’m sure he’s bound to get offed this season.

Jeremy:  I wanted Daryl to just push him in to the skin eaters. Just be done with him. You have that collection of brutality and Bob. Seriously fuck Bob.

Kevin: There was no reason to keep him around. From what I can tell, he had no real job at the prison.

Jeremy: No he had just gotten there when this season started. Daryl even tried to prop him up only to immediately get let down. That was damn fine acting as well.

Kevin: I’m not sure how I could shoot a scene in which I had to bump heads with another actor while trying not to fall off of what looked like a rickety roof. But when you’re that pissed, you do tend to invade someone’s space so it was spot on.

Jeremy: Enjoy how everyone gas some sort of secret from each other. Even though they depend in each other they still won’t be honest with each other.

Kevin: I don’t even think the writers wrote it poorly. It tells you how stupid people would be even in that dire of a situation.

Jeremy: No the writing so far has been spot on. Good pacing and surprising events. Can’t ask for much more.

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