Stunt Granny Audio #260

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After a break from talking to each other, Jeremy & Kevin are back to talk wrestling. Except that they start talking about Jeremy’s receiver and X Box problems. Did Kevin see the commercial that has caused X Box owners problems? Is that how they transitioned to talking about the studio analysts of the World Cup? What makes them different from other commentators on TV? Why did they start adding so many talking heads to College Game Day? Who does Jeremy want to get the boot? Speaking of people getting the boot, there is speculation that Josh Matthews is out of a job with the WWE. Did he ever get a fair shake? How long did he announce Smackdown? Why did Michael Cool take his spot? Do your hosts think he is finally doing a good job? How vanilla has he gotten? Does he even do play by play any more? Why did a Josh Matthews conversation turn into Michael Cole conversation? Kevin moves on to clarify his article about ROH changing world champions from Adam Cole to Michael Elgin. But this clarification turns the conversation into a talk about TNA’s bizarre decision to remove the belt from Eric Young? Why would they do it right before his television appearances for “No Limits” on Animal Planet? What style of booking led to TNA winning at Slammiversary but then dropping the belt at the next Impact Wrestling? Do the guys talk themselves into saying that Eric Young is the best option as champion in TNA? Find out the answer to that question and more when you click on the link below.

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Stunt Granny Conversation: The Walking Dead – Season 4 – Alone

walking-dead-aloneJeremy:  So so you like Bob any better after this episode?

Kevin:  I’ll answer your question by starting at the beginning of the episode. Am I the only that thought they found Bob in the prison?

Jeremy:  Yes. He even said when they introduced him by saying they found him “out there.”

Kevin:  Okay. I must have forgotten about that. Bob certainly has more of a character after that episode but I’m not sure I like him, Maggie or Sasha any more after that episode. No one stepped up in that trio to be the leader.
Jeremy:  I liked his matter of fact attitude. When Daryl and Glenn approach him and he just stands there saying hello.
Kevin:  He tried to keep the group together and you can’t blame him for trying to get all up into Sasha.
Jeremy:  I see your side of it though. They are all codependent. Maggie gets all hard and takes off but then stops out of the blue. Sasha was beggin Bob to stay so she wouldn’t be alone. He gets some play and continues on. He turned out to be the only admirable one or at least hardened. Can we talk strategy and logic for a moment?
Kevin:  Sure, whose strategy?
Jeremy:  Those three. Sleeping in woods. Maggie just passing out in open instead of going to a friggin building twenty feet away. The sleeping in the open makes no damn sense. Let alone walking in the woods.
Kevin:  I wold have felt the least bad about anyone them being knocked off because of their strategy.
People have been staying out of the woods for almost the entire run of the show but all of a sudden, everyone is loving the idea, not just this trio.
Jeremy:  Right, Rick and Carl got to a house when Rick could barely move. Michonne at least joined a herd and was in a field of low grass. No idea what Carol and Tyreese have been up to.
These three decide to go camping. After the fog wouldn’t you hightail it? how turned around are these three rubes?
Kevin:  Carol & Tyreese found the tracks in their one episode. The fog was a cool way to get in a zombie attack since I don’t feel I’d seen it before.

Fog can be anywhere but again, if you’re in a field or something more open, you’d have more vision even in that situation.
Jeremy:  I was thinking that the time frame on all of this is part of the issue. How many days has it been? Seems liek all the episodes have the same amount of nightfall?
Kevin:  It is getting hard to tell what the timing is. With Carl, Rick & Michonne, you got a decent grasp of it. Or even Daryl & Beth, but this trio has been pushed to the back. I feel like they were in the same spot they had been left in their previous episode though so the day count is about the same as other groups.

Stunt Granny Conversation – The Walking Dead – Season 4- Inmates

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Jeremy:  OK then let’s do this. Carol’s back and they had a good explanation as well.

Kevin:  A very good explanation really. She was too attached to those kids. The kids like her too.

Jeremy:  Her excuse was a tad flimsy to Tyreese but under the circumstances it is easily believable.

Kevin:  Tyreese didn’t completely seem to be buying it but he figured the benefits of having someone else around outweighed a bad excuse.

Jeremy:  Yeah true I chalked it I’ll to shock and then elation. He has the baby skills of a rock. Psycho girls approach was more effective.

Kevin:  Killing  Judith would be one way to deal with a baby. I do love that the child looked too old when it was first born but now seems to be young for her age.

Jeremy:  Yeah that kid about up on size and has gone stagnant. Maybe that is the future of mankind; a world of Benjamin Buttons? I thought that was a nice moral dilemma. How do you handle that? Tyreese saved Judith but then she is possibly going to be your undoing.

Kevin:  I was a little surprised they had enough sense to grab some formula for the kid. Tyreese had it the worst out of anyone with Judith & the 2 little girls. Yikes. No help until Carol arrived.

Jeremy: On top of that one kid who is a tad , um, off her rocker and the other a blubbering mess. Seems pretty obvious now who killed Sasha and the other guy. Carol was clearly covering for her. Oh and the feeding of zombies.

Kevin: That kid has gone over the edge. At least with Carl, you see that has hasn’t completely lost it.

Jeremy: Carl seems to just be going through puberty in a horrible time. This chick probably had some issues before all of this and circumstances have added to the problem. I don’t feel much sympathy for her for some reason. Her sister seems like a regular child.

Kevin:  They introduced her as crazy so it’s hard to sympathize with her. If your theory is right and she did take out the 2 infected people, even less reason to have sympathy.

Jeremy: Just hoping it doesn’t turn in to Carol doubting herself again over one of the kids she trained or molded turns out to be a list cause. They have dine too good of a job building her up.

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Stunt Granny Conversation – The Walking Dead – Season 4 – Dead Weight

Which one became the new right hand man and who's zombiefied in the drink?

Which one became the new right hand man and who’s zombiefied in the drink?

One episode to go gang before the Waking Dead will break our hearts and no doubt leave some of us very angry.  Yup, one more episode to go before this half-season cliffhanger. The Governors plight came to an end. The events may have been a bit jumbled and the timeline is still in question but how did they guys feel about it? How stupid do people continue to be on this show? How convenient do the show writers make it for their characters? A tank? Really? Oh nd a driver to boot? Ok, whatever, just make it worthwhile.

Jeremy:  So, like I said last week, I wasn’t buying the Governor done good garbage.
Kevin:  Yes, it’s an interesting window into the world of TV. We know what the evil guy did in the past but you can’t help new meat from being fed to him. We never bought his turn around but people in zombie land are all that matter.
Jeremy:  If those women didn’t have that girl Megan he wouldn’t have bothered with them. So it was no surprise last night when he turned and took power. He was never redeeming himself. He was using them.
Kevin:  The whole opening scene backed up your point because it was just him giving her life lessons as he hang dries clothes.
Jeremy:  Lived the reveal of a tank. It was only a matter of time. As soon as they went on the excursion in the woods Martinez and gang were done. He immediately started to size them up.
Kevin:  The tank was one of those moments that is all TV land too. Well, we already did people fighting against people. Then people in gun fights. What can make things more explosive. I got it, a tank!
Jeremy:  Yeah but they did mention the army convoy being hit as well as his new right hand man being a tank operator. A little too convenient but fun.
Kevin:  I did think that was a smart ploy on the Governor’s part to get rid of the people who knew him in the recent past. Can’t let anyone dropping secrets.
Jeremy:  If Martinez had shown he was a capable leader he would have been OK. Getting drunk and hitting golf balls creating noise was pretty stupid. “Brian” is still protecting the women.
Kevin:  I didn’t even think about it that way. The Gov whacking him across the face with a club was rough-looking. Then slowly letting the zombies eat him was even worse.

Jeremy:  The club was really awful. Not sure why but the thought of an edge bashing in to the ear is nauseating. After that being eaten by walkers was almost mercy to me.
Kevin:  I thought the touch of not just pitching Martinez in the pit as the little bit of extra that made it worse. Although it’s not quite as bad as leaving a zombie anchored to the bottom of the nearby watering hole.
Jeremy:  Yes slowly pushing his head in to the pit was terribly clever. Helps make the story of him getting drunk and falling in the pit more likely. Of course the logic involved with a pit of walkers can be argued. The symbolism of trapping the innocent rube in the lake was obvious but not sure that is the smartest idea. Made for a great visual.
Kevin:  Yeah, leaving a walker alive always comes back to bite you in the ass. Plus, who wouldn’t use that water from time to time if it’s Kool-Aid blue?

Stunt Granny Conversation: The Walking Dead – Season 4 – Internment

tumblr_mw3br5gaMR1rn610xo1_500Jeremy:  So after last night I am thinking Carol was totally justified.

Kevin: Since they were early in the symptom phase though, they would have been put down even if Carol hadn’t done it. I wouldn’t have thought of it that way initially though because the other crew did come back with the medicine that cured everyone.

Jeremy:  Exactly at the time she did what was right not that it was an easy decision. It ran rampant and now we are back down to a manageable cast thankfully.

Kevin: I’m not sure it was right as they could have quarantined them just like they had everyone else. Euthanize them when they turn like everyone else.

Jeremy: Hmm, maybe I am giving her the benefit of the doubt and they were on way out anyway. She mentioned they were bleeding already and that seemed to be the sign that the end was near.

Kevin: I didn’t remember her saying that. Either way, I still think a slap on the wrist was a better way to go. Or if she had just been vocal about quarantining everyone earlier. I’m not sure why that was such a hard decision. For Carol that is. No need to boot her from the prison.

Jeremy: Tyreese wasn’t exactly calm about it all. Rick had a strong point that Tyreese was going to kill her for it. He wasn’t going to listen at that point. Maybe now after the carnage he would but not right then.

Kevin: That is a valid point although did they ever actually show Rick telling him or even Daryl?

Jeremy: No Hershel told Daryl to go see Rick about her. Then they went to either Tyreese and Sasha or the big reveal.

Kevin: Okay, I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t crazy. I guess it would be a back burner issue to trying to save people’s lives. It should make for an interesting episode next week. The ending was so odd too. I thought Hershel crying was the end of the show then we get 7 minutes of a hunky dory 60’s sitcom.

Jeremy: Well they had to show the group come back with the chaos. Ending the show with Hershel breaking down would have been too much. It was a classic pulling the rug out from under the audience.

Kevin: They do too much to the audience almost every week. But you’re right that everything needed to be peachy before the next, but first retread threat.

Jeremy: The entire episode was relentless. If that virus had killed off a main character then the danger if the plague would have been more believable. At no time did I ever think Glen was in Trouble. Sasha is a meh character right now so she had a hint if danger about her sickness.

Kevin: Neither did I. Glenn & Hershel were safe as safe could be. I understand the teaser part of showing the Governor but it told me that the virus was just an afterthought story line to fill time until we got to the mid-season finale hook.

Jeremy: It served its purpose by thinning the cast. Not just the leftovers from Woodbury though. Carol is on the lamb…um…lame? Tyreese was given depth through grief. It served to bring Rick and Carl together again.

Kevin: You just showed me. Ha ha ha. I guess I think they could make the transition without doing the everyone is happy 60’s garbage and just show the Governor. Add in more of trip back from Daryl’s group. You mean to tell me they only ran into a herd of zombies on the way there?

Jeremy: I hadn’t even thought about the herd on way back. Maybe they were all drawn in to the school? The trip back would have been redundant I suppose. Did one of “Carol’s daughters” go Walker last night? Was she the one that bit the guys arm holding the gun?

Kevin: I only thought that one of them went in and she seemed safe since she kept asking Hershel questions.

Jeremy: Well guess that is a wait and see.  We have too many young blonde girls in the show. Time to get to choppin.

Kevin: Not only are there too many of them, they’re all just relevant enough to think you should know their names but you never do because they’re not memorable. I forget Beth’s name half of the time.

Jeremy: Funny I was just going to say Beth is the only standout. On that front. Hershel was really great last night. Didn’t realize that was his first up close and personal zombie kill.

Kevin: I had assumed he had at some point Hershel had killed one. My how I’ve forgotten that he was the original experimenter on zombies.

Jeremy:  Yeah. He shot with guns but apparently nothing close quarters. He was impressive last night, which made his breakdown at the end so devastating. He tried and tried and nothing worked.

Kevin: He did keep a handful of people around so it wasn’t completely in vain.

Jeremy: It sure seemed bleak. When Daryl called him a badass and he said “Yes I am” it cracked me up. One legged man got it done.

Kevin: Yeah, Hershel did have quite the feature last night. They hadn’t used him too heavily since the time on the farm. He’s been the old guy with sage advice since they killed off Dale that same season.

Jeremy: Dale would have lasted three minutes. It did round up the virus storyline very well. They even finally got rid of the herd outside the prison for the time being. Which, in, why the hell haven’t they done something like that before? Hell Rick said there was a bus. No one had the idea to take the bus and run their asses over?

Kevin: Or have more people knocking over the zombies instead of the three people they always pictured out there. Hey lazy asses, get up and do something.

Jeremy: Just seems like The Council runs a lazy ship.

Kevin: I did like that no one was from Woodbury on the council

Jeremy: You noticed that too? Well Sasha but that barely counts.

Kevin: You would think people might want to be involved since their last leader dicked them over

Jeremy: Very true. Especially with the same people taking you in also “attacked” you previously.

Kevin: Plenty of motivation to get involved but most of them wanted to be zombie fodder.

Jeremy:  Followers, yuck. Well we glossed over it but with happier days seemingly ahead they go and give the big reveal. He returns.

Kevin: Yeah, we did touch on it some but all I needed to do is wait another week or 2 to get some Governor.

Jeremy: We all knew he was going to be back and am surprised so soon. Next week looks to be his episode so will get an update on what he has been doing. But when they panned back and there was someone in the woods it did slip out “No way.” Then you see the eye patch and it goes dark. Great end.

Kevin:  I wasn’t surprised but still a great ending. Especially when the preview had mentioned how much Michonne had been hunting him. Right under your nose.

Stunt Granny Conversation: The Walking Dead – Season 4 – Indifference

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Kevin: Are we going to have our somewhat zombie free discussion?

Jeremy: Ahh you referring to last night’s show? What little zombies there were sure made an impact.

Kevin: Yes sir, I am referring to last night’s episode of The Walking Dead titled Indifference.

Jeremy: Very formal. Did they have to kill the hippie chick? Why not the doofus?

Kevin: That whole scene seemed very much like wrestling. This couple has gone at least several years without getting killed but they happen to get killed within minutes of meeting Rick & Carol? I saw that coming a mile away. Just to cheese it up more, she had retrieved her vegetables from their greenhouse.

Jeremy: I was waiting for them to turn on Rick and Carol, which was the drama for me. They were given guns after all. They did make a point of bringing up her gimpy leg. It made me laugh when that was left behind. Not sure it was supposed to though.

Kevin: And his weak shoulder. I’m sure the zombies were just targeting those body parts. They never should have worn wraps. They’re like bull’s eyes for zombies.

Jeremy: Splash them in blood next time to give them a fighting chance.

Kevin: Ha. That would be one way to deal with them. I did love the talk Carol and Rick had while our favorite hippie chick was getting pulled apart.

Jeremy: Yes, as they discuss life and death issues the poor hippie is being dismembered 190 feet away.

Kevin: At least they got a couple of extra tomatoes out of their gabbing. I thought it was interesting that they had flipped roles in opinion for the most part.

Jeremy: Carol has become the most interesting person in the show. She was steadfast in her views. She reminded me a lot of Shane. Rick is back to his timid actions like they were on the farm.

Kevin: Shane was exactly who came to mind for me too. It’s still weird that she killed and burned two people the episode before they had an entire cell block full of people who were sick. Her form of justice didn’t do any good.

Jeremy:  Right and that is what Rick tried to point out so weakly. She killed them without thinking. She acted irrationally where Shane had his stance buy them couldn’t handle it. Carol albeit messy had her plan but didn’t think it through. She did try to justify her actions which I agree with if they were that bad off physically. Rick viewed her as a loose cannon.

Kevin: Which is where his waffling was weird to me. Sometimes, people make bad choices. It seemed to me more like this was a bad choice by Carol more than a pathological problem like Shane had.

Jeremy: Well she did start teaching weapons class to kids behind everyone’s back. She has gone out on her own already. At this rate she may become more aggressive. She even gave the one girl a knife inside the quarantine. He noticed it was gone when he unrolled the knives in the car.

Kevin: I guess she was moving that way even further. Is that the first person to get booted from the show without dying?

Jeremy: Well Merle comes to mind but he ended up returning and going walker. The closest I can think is the black neighbor who returned last season. I cannot remember his name. But he wasn’t a regular. Also, the Governor.

Kevin: I think that was more my point, none of the characters who were in the group have gotten that part of a sendoff. Merle and The Governor were both bad guys who got away. I really don’t remember the black neighbors name anyway.

Jeremy: Got ya but so you really think this is the end of her? Hell, Rick was looking in the rearview mirror constantly. I was waiting for her to appear or for Rick to crash.

Kevin: I think she’ll be back but I’m not sure she’s a hell fire bringing kind of a person. Of course, I’m not sure why you’d want to come back with a disease ravaging the entire place. Would the girl in the sick block pull her back in?

Jeremy: The girls may provide a tug but it makes me think that is what Rick was looking for. She became so unattached she wouldn’t name her own daughter. She had something there to fight for and didn’t. When she returns and I am sticking to that, it won’t be in anger. Her removal will have huge consequences for the entire group.

Kevin: Any type of consequences that come to mind specifically?

Jeremy:  Well Daryl. Ugh, not consequences good god. I meant effects. Daryl loses his closest friend. If Rick decides to tell Tyreese he may go off again. The two girls now have no parents again.

Kevin: That is a triumvirate of problems. Rick has got to explain why she is gone so it’s not like he can get around it unless he flat out lies to the group.

Jeremy: Yeah he can’t lie and say she died. At least he shouldn’t if he has learned anything. It will also look very suspicious for him to return without her. Even though Rick talks her up about being stronger and a survivor now is so hollow. She was given some sundries and agent off on her own after all that time inside a group.

Kevin: That wasn’t much of a severance package. I did like how she groveled a bit to try and stay in the group by complimenting his tenure as leader. Carol was right in telling him that he needs to be a farmer and fighter.

Jeremy: Yes she was fine.  I hate then fact she finally becomes a compelling and strong woman and now she is seemingly gone. Guess that means they got me emotionally involved. Damnit.

Kevin: The only thought in my brain that we haven’t covered was of course they’d get rid of someone when they become interesting. Par for the course.

Jeremy: Yeah but she will still be back. So, how long do we have to go with two black guys on this show? I am ready for Bob to die already.

Kevin: Of course the scum bag who has a drinking problem sticks around. With all of his near death experiences already this season, I’m sure he’s bound to get offed this season.

Jeremy:  I wanted Daryl to just push him in to the skin eaters. Just be done with him. You have that collection of brutality and Bob. Seriously fuck Bob.

Kevin: There was no reason to keep him around. From what I can tell, he had no real job at the prison.

Jeremy: No he had just gotten there when this season started. Daryl even tried to prop him up only to immediately get let down. That was damn fine acting as well.

Kevin: I’m not sure how I could shoot a scene in which I had to bump heads with another actor while trying not to fall off of what looked like a rickety roof. But when you’re that pissed, you do tend to invade someone’s space so it was spot on.

Jeremy: Enjoy how everyone gas some sort of secret from each other. Even though they depend in each other they still won’t be honest with each other.

Kevin: I don’t even think the writers wrote it poorly. It tells you how stupid people would be even in that dire of a situation.

Jeremy: No the writing so far has been spot on. Good pacing and surprising events. Can’t ask for much more.

Stunt Granny Conversation: Walking Dead Season 4 Episode 3: Isolation

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Every week, Jeremy and Kevin talk about The Walking Dead because they both watch and it’s popular enough to post on our website here. We’re supposed to do this Monday morning the day after the show but Kevin was sick. Then he waited too damn long to contact Jeremy last night so it’s finally getting posted Wednesday morning. If you’re one of those people that let’s your DVR stack up then you binge watch, we’ll put in a Read More button so that you can revisit later.

Kevin:  So, we get an episode titled Isolation. People weren’t too isolated considering the spread of the flu.

Jeremy:  Yes an isolation that can and was broken routinely.

Kevin:  I’m not sure why Carol didn’t get a good scolding for watching and hugging people on the way in. What a dummy.

Jeremy:  See, I am a little lost on who is quarantined and who is not. Also, just why they are or how it was determined. I know if you show signs of sickness but that is about it.
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